Monday, November 29, 2010

Start of tribulation

This paper should not be applied that I know when the tribulation will start.

 Mat 24; 36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

But for some unknown reason this math adds up? Could it mean anything?
12/21/2012    (End of the world?   Or the first day of the seven year tribulation?)     42 months later or 1260 days later would be June 3, 2016

2012 =10 days
2013=365
2014=365
2015=365
2016 =155 days until June 3 = 1260 days

(Rev 11:11)  But after 3 ½ days a breath of life from God entered them.  (Now its June 7, 2016 This is exactly 49 years since the Six Day War" of 1967 When Israel captured and took control of the City of Jerusalem)
It took only three days for Israeli forces to defeat the Jordanian legion. On the morning of June 7, the order was given to recapture Jerusalem. Israeli paratroopers stormed the city and secured it. Defense Minister Moshe Dayan  arrived with Chief of Staff Yitzhak Rabin  to formally mark the Jews’ return to their historic capital and their holiest site. At the Western Wall, the IDF’s chaplain, Rabbi Shlomo Goren, blew a shofar to celebrate the event.

Jesus himself called Daniel the beloved prophet and quoted extensively from Daniel (Mathew 24 and Luke 21)
Without understanding Daniel, the book of Revelation would be an enigma and a mystery. Much of Daniel prophecies have already been fulfilled. Therefore, we know that what Daniel speaks of yet to come, will also come to pass. Daniel’s vision is always about Jerusalem, never about the state of Israel.

Daniel wrote 9:24-27 "Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy. (25) "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the anointed One, the ruler. Comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' (AND) sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. (26) After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
The Sixty-two 'sevens' portion of Daniel 9:25 have been fulfilled.  King Artaxerxes gave Nehemiah the first "decree" "to restore and rebuild Jerusalem” after which, the Jewish people were able to return to their homeland, and rebuild their Temple.  Approximately (62x7=) 434 years later, Jesus Christ rode into Jerusalem.

 (Daniel 9:27) He will confirm a covenant with many for one Seven (This is the seven year tribulation period.) In the middle of the seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. (3 ½ years into the tribulation the antichrist will sit on the throne and announce that he is God.) And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

The second "decree “(seven sevens)” to restore and rebuild Jerusalem Might have started on June 7, 1967.   The Jewish people declared themselves to be the State of Israel on May 14, 1948.  However, Jerusalem was not completely in Israel control until 1967.  During the "Six Day War" of 1967, Israel captured the Old City of Jerusalem which included the Temple Mount.  On June 7, 1967 Jerusalem came back under Jewish control.  (Even though all of Jerusalem is under Israel control, it was for a short period of time, and what they do control they are rebuilding.)
Daniel 9:25.  "The Anointed One, the ruler, will come again "Seven 'Sevens, equals(forty-nine years) after that "decree" was issued Jesus Christ will return. 
                     
FORTY-NINE YEARS   from June 3 2016. Plus the 3.5 days the witness laid in the street June 7. 2016,
Rev 11:3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1260 days.    (7) When they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes from the abyss will attack them and kill them.  (Dec 21, 2012 would be a milestone to measure time by)  

Rev 11:12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.(13) At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed, Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.  Who gives glory to God?  The church?  Is the church still on earth? Is the rapture about ready to happen?   This is also the last time in Revelation that the people give glory to God.
Rev 11:15 The Seventh angel sounded his trumpet, this is the last trumpet there is no eighth trumpet) and there were loud voices in heaven which said: The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and his Christ and he will reign forever and ever. (16) And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on the thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God.(17) Saying we give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the one who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign.(18) The nations were angry: and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great and destroying those who destroy the earth. (19) Then God’s temple in heaven was open.    (Is Jesus here to rapture the church?)  Could this be Jesus second coming as predicted by Daniel 9:25? 

A lot of people teach, and believe the rapture will occur in the period of Rev 4:1 This would classified as pre-tribulation due to the fact God is telling John in Rev 1:19 to (a) write the things that you have seen. (b)What is now, (c) and what will take place later.

What I believe is Mid-tribulation Rev 11; 15 What John has seen is Jesus, What is now is the churches, what will take place later is God’s wrath. No one knows when the rapture will occur it could happen at any time. The bible has so many passages to inform us it could be mid-tribulation here are a few that stand out at least for me.

Malachi 3; 1 See I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the lord you are seeking will come to his temple. (Now this could apply to John the Baptist and/or to the two witnesses in Rev 11?)

(1 Corinthians 15: 50) I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. (51) Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, (sleep means to be dead) but we will all be changed. (52) in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.                     (The two witness, the “dead”, then us?  Could the rapture happen at this time?)    (Only Jesus will rapture us, and he has to be here to do it!)     We were told us once before the messiah was to come but no one listened.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. (17) After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.                
Matthew 24:15 So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation; spoken of through the prophet Daniel- let the reader understand.                  (My understanding this will be the middle of the seven year tribulation).      
(Will the rapture occurs after this event?) 
Matthew 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survived but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.                                                              (Could Jesus be talking about mid- tribulation?)
Rev 10;6 And he swore by him who lives forever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay! 7 But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets The only mystery to us is God, the rapture, & heaven.)
2 Thess 2.1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, (2) not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. (3) Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come) until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. (4) He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.   (This passage is pretty clear Jesus will not come until the antichrist sits in the temple and claim to be God.     (Then the rapture?)
1 Thes 5:9 For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. (We are not appointed to God's wrath, but notice that the wrath of God is not poured out onto the earth until after the two witnesses are lifted up.
 Rev 11; 18 The nations were angry; and your wrath has come).Before that God is casting judgment on the earth by breaking of the seven seals. Events that man has been dealing with since the beginning of time. Luke 19: 41) As Jesus approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it (42) and said, "If  you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace--but now it is hidden from your eyes.
The Bible never said that being a Christian you will never endure hardship, suffering and persecution look at the early Christian martyrdoms! How much harm and persecution happens to all of those Christians.
Why shouldn't we suffer some? All throughout the bible people have face God’s judgment. The first part of Revelation with the seven seals are broken is about God’s judgment not his wrath.   After the saints have been rapture. God pours out his wrath on the non Christian people these are the people God has given up on. It’s up to the nonbelievers to save themselves and turn to God.
I believe after the start of tribulation, or maybe after the rarture the Holy Spirit will leave the earth. People will still come to Jesus but it will be a lot harder for them without the Holy Spirit around. Now is the time to accept the lord in your life!